2005 Easiest Aftermarket Speaker upgrade?

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Hi all,

I want to get a banging sound system for my car -

a) I don't want to mess about spending ages with tweeters etc on the dash.

b) apparently I need to be careful about the depth of new speakers as they interfere with the windows.

c) I am afraid of woofers and subwoofers etc.

Can anyone recommend a set of door speakers that are easy to fit that would be able to cope with some good bass?

Budget is c. £150 ish

Many thanks
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Alpine make a range of upgrade kits designed specifically C3s. The kits include speakers and fitting plates where needed, eg the front doors. Some of the Alpine kits are 'component', ie separate mid/bass and tweeter, some are integrated. I'd be wary of fitting integrated speakers in the front, lowering the position of the tweeters will not help sound quality. Other makes of speaker are available, the reason I mention Alpine is that they are a known good make and I've just fitted a set in my Shogun and I'm impressed!

Before you upgrade the factory fit speakers, what are you using to drive them? If its the factory fit radio, upgrading that will make a big difference to sound quality. Our C3 has a SONY double DIN radio, the sound quality is way batter than factory even using factory speakers.

Sub-woofers aren't too difficult if you really feel the need, although you can get quite decent bass from a radio with a good amp and built-in bass enhancement. The rear doors are the place to put speakers with a good bass response, or consider an under-seat sub. No physical fitting required with most, they 'velcro' to the carpet. Ideally your radio needs a sub output but they can be driven from the speaker signal (not quite as good sound quality). A sub will also need a good power source, most people wire them straight to the battery and fit a separate fuse near the battery, on/off switching is done be the radio.
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My Name: samuelodog

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Thanks

My problem is - I listen to a lot of bass heavy music, and when I turn the bass up high enough to really hear it - it tends to blow a speaker or two. I currently have two front speakers, left one is slightly blown. I replaced the back rear blown speakers a while ago, the rear right is intermittent. The tweeters are fine though!

So - what do I do about the bass?

What I ideally want to do is just replace the front two, fix the back one, and leave the tweeters alone.

So what do I replace the front two with? Or do I just replace them with any old speaker and add a subwoofer - and in this case - which one should that be? I have no clue!!

Thanks!
My Name: samuelodog

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Would something like this do:

https://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/25/1 ... /page.html

Given that I a) don't think I want coaxial or dual cone- as I cant be bothered to mess about with the tweeters and don't want two sets of tweeters?

Am I right in thinking this?

If this is correct - anyone recommend a different set?

Or even some for the back ones?

Many thanks
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Something along the lines of the sub you show would work. Just check that there is enough room under the seat.

As for the Pioneer speakers, yes pioneer are pretty good, I fitted a set in my wife vehicle to replace the factory fit ones after one of them split a diaphragm. It's slightly more difficult if you want to keep the existing tweeter; ideally you need to match the bass/midrange to the tweeter, mainly on the sensitivity, you don't want one to appear louder than the other. Unless you have specs on the factory fit tweeter it's a bit of guesswork. I went somewhere in the middle, around 90dB sensitivity and got lucky!
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Thanks missing lincs,

I didn't actually understand the sensitivity stuff - but are you saying I should just go for the sub? Or the sub and the pioneers, or the sub and pioneers with tweets, or any other combo? I'm not that much of an audiophile - I just need to play my music at a decent volume without the speakers exploding!

And don't want to a) pay a lot, b) do a lot to set up the system.

Thanks again.
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I don't wish to side-step an answer but ...

Adding a sub will give better bass than not having one.

Pioneer speakers will most likely be better than factory fit, even with the existing tweeters.

You still haven't said what your radio is, this will determine how best to connect a sub.
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The radio is the normal one that comes with the car. This sort:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-206-3 ... O-PLAYER-/


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Sorry to jump in, at the end. I am late into the topic, but I still think its worth mentioning this
samuelodog wrote:My problem is - I listen to a lot of bass heavy music, and when I turn the bass up high enough to really hear it - it tends to blow a speaker or two.
My advice is if you find high volume levels damage the speakers, then this is a sure fire sign the you need to upgrade the amplifier.

The common misconception is to just fit more powerful speakers, but the fault is with the amplifier clipping the high level signal causing DC in the windings of the speaker. Result - blown speaker. Solution - more powerful amplifier ;)
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