Wire discovered hanging under car.

dazzjhno · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:10 pm

Hello

I have recently purchased my first car

.... I recently noticed on 2nd drive that a wire is hanging underneath car, is anybody able to identify cable in picture and where it should be connected.
I had contacted dealer who purchased car off and they gave us details of garage to contact and to mention I am customer of his.

Cut it short i'd rather be able to simply reconnect cable instead of having hassle of going to garage.

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Thanks.

Darren

Arfur Dent · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:30 pm

dazzjhno wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:10 pm Hello

I have recently purchased my first car .... I recently noticed on 2nd drive that a wire is hanging underneath car, is anybody able to identify cable in picture and where it should be connected.
I had contacted dealer who purchased car off and they gave us details of garage to contact and to mention I am customer of his.

Cut it short i'd rather be able to simply reconnect cable instead of having hassle of going to garage.

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Thanks.

Darren

Hello Darren

Its a shame you didn't inspect (at least look under) the car before you bought it. This is one to live and learn.

It's not possible to see what it should be connected to. There is never enough slack in the cable attachments to even make this possible, which makes me believe there is a lot more to this picture than just a wire hanging down. It looks like some shoddy previous work when it has serious been neglected in refitting parts.

A close-up (in focus) of the plug may be more helpful to identify it.

But a quick test of the car functions - all the things you should do when buying a car, test that everything works.

Al the correct warning lights illuminate and then go off, a/c, brakes, steering, wash-wipers ett all work.

The one that doesn't work or isn't working properly is going to be part of the problem you have captured a photo of, but I think someone has been there and not done their job properly.

It is very possible that the plug never attached to anything, there are several unused plugs on the looms and this could be one of them, but it still doesn't explain why all the clips have failed.

dazzjhno · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:42 pm

Hello Darren

Its a shame you didn't inspect (at least look under) the car before you bought it. This is one to live and learn.

It's not possible to see what it should be connected to. There is never enough slack in the cable attachments to even make this possible, which makes me believe there is a lot more to this picture than just a wire hanging down. It looks like some shoddy previous work when it has serious been neglected in refitting parts.

A close-up (in focus) of the plug may be more helpful to identify it.

But a quick test of the car functions - all the things you should do when buying a car, test that everything works.

Al the correct warning lights illuminate and then go off, a/c, brakes, steering, wash-wipers ett all work.

The one that doesn't work or isn't working properly is going to be part of the problem you have captured a photo of, but I think someone has been there and not done their job properly.

It is very possible that the plug never attached to anything, there are several unused plugs on the looms and this could be one of them, but it still doesn't explain why all the clips have failed.

Thanks for the reply, error on my part here is my first car so not experienced, however feel this would of been missed if had looked as only appeared recently after couple drives.

All car functions are fine and has been drove with no issues and history of car MOT's and mileage and history of 2 owners had me think differently.

Perhaps it could be a unused cable but I'm not sure, at this stage to identify cable it is Yellow connector at end.. I'll try to see pins or get better picture to see if helps.

Dealership has given contact of mechanic also but as posted would like to avoid.

Thanks

Arfur Dent · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm

Yes, a close-up of the connector would help.

It is very uncommon, unheard of to have so much wire hanging down, there is definitely something very wrong with the way it has been put back together after work.

The previous MOT test is suspect because this would/should have been an advisory. Even if it is unused, they never just hang down like that. I think a full inspection would be the safest way to check what is going on there.

You mention MOT tests, but you live in Europe and have the steering wheel on the wrong side or is just a mistake on the sign-up details?

Please check you have set the data correctly. It can make a difference to how the problems are diagnosed or misdiagnosed if they information is incorrect for your C3 with the problem.

You can change the details in the 'car bio' link in my signature.

dazzjhno · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Yes, a close-up of the connector would help.

It is very uncommon, unheard of to have so much wire hanging down, there is definitely something very wrong with the way it has been put back together after work.

The previous MOT test is suspect because this would/should have been an advisory. Even if it is unused, they never just hang down like that. I think a full inspection would be the safest way to check what is going on there.

You mention MOT tests, but you live in Europe and have the steering wheel on the wrong side or is just a mistake on the sign-up details?

Please check you have set the data correctly. It can make a difference to how the problems are diagnosed or misdiagnosed if they information is incorrect for your C3 with the problem.

You can change the details in the 'car bio' link in my signature.

I will see if can get better picture.

Alright I'll check with mechanic if no reply on here and I see what your saying.

Yeah error on my part and now adjusted.

cfrank · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 pm

dazzjhno wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:42 pm ... is my first car so not experienced, ...

Good luck, Darren. My first car was a Citroen BX 16, bought for the equivalent of £1,200. I liked it very much and thought it was OK for the price. I've had it checked the next day and was quoted a repair bill of £2.400

Then I bought the Haynes manual...

Ozvtr · Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:26 pm

Arfur Dent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:30 pm It looks like some shoddy previous work

That's no way to talk about Citroens workmanship!

That looks like the air-conditioning compressor clutch electrical connector but I can't see the compressor. I assume you don't have air-conditioning on your car? I cant tell (it's very grubby) but the connector should be yellow. The two other looms you can see break off that loom are for the oil level indicator and the oil pressure sensor.

That's very strange, I got a "Plurial" engine harness from the UK to replace a damaged loom in one of my cars. However when it arrived there was no connector or wires in the loom for the aircon compressor!? I had to strip out the wires from the old loom and rebuild the "new" engine loom. A modern sedan without aircon? I believe it came out of a van like a Berlingo or Jumpy?
Maybe Arfur can shed some light on what PSA vehicle DOESN'T have air-conditioning?

Um...is your car supposed to have aircon?

dazzjhno · Post Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:05 am

cfrank wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:13 pm
dazzjhno wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:42 pm ... is my first car so not experienced, ...
Good luck, Darren. My first car was a Citroen BX 16, bought for the equivalent of £1,200. I liked it very much and thought it was OK for the price. I've had it checked the next day and was quoted a repair bill of £2.400
Then I bought the Haynes manual...

Oh dear that is a shock!

I'm hoping I can resolve it myself.

Funny enough that was value of this car

I spent half the day yesterday trying to find said wire on videos etc and was looking for a free copy of the Haynes manual for diagrams of wiring

If you recommend It ill stop being cheap and purchase it.

dazzjhno · Post Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:13 am

Ozvtr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:26 pm
Arfur Dent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:30 pm It looks like some shoddy previous work
That's no way to talk about Citroens workmanship!

That looks like the air-conditioning compressor clutch electrical connector but I can't see the compressor. I assume you don't have air-conditioning on your car? I cant tell (it's very grubby) but the connector should be yellow. The two other looms you can see break off that loom are for the oil level indicator and the oil pressure sensor.

That's very strange, I got a "Plurial" engine harness from the UK to replace a damaged loom in one of my cars. However when it arrived there was no connector or wires in the loom for the aircon compressor!? I had to strip out the wires from the old loom and rebuild the "new" engine loom. A modern sedan without aircon? I believe it came out of a van like a Berlingo or Jumpy?
Maybe Arfur can shed some light on what PSA vehicle DOESN'T have air-conditioning?

Um...is your car supposed to have aircon?

Thanks for reply, I did have air-con as tested and had it running on drive but haven't tested recently.

I have attached two photos for hopefully better identification with little description.

Wire is grubby and photo unclear due to a damaged phone I also live in sunny Blackpool so its getting nice weather

Arfur Dent · Post Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:37 am

This picture is of the A/C compressor plug and socket on an early C3. There is no plastic conduit and it's yellow/yellow not yellow/black like in your pictures.

: Citroen C3 air con pump plug

There also seems to be an excessive amount of oil under the engine as you also noticed. This shouldn't be the case with the C3, even older examples don't look like that unless there is a serious oil leak.

You can't beat getting it up on a 4 wheel vehicle lift or even over a pit to get a good view of what's going there.

It may need cleaning before inspecting because oil tends to coat everything and it it difficult to pinpoint the source when it's everywhere.

There is more going on here than just a wire hanging down.

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