Recharged battery and now will not start
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Not immo, got fuel....
can be cam belt, that's common, best to inspect visually for that, the teeth get stripped off at a section rather than the belt snapping.
Could have an injection fault, use an OBD reader (here) to read the codes.
can be cam belt, that's common, best to inspect visually for that, the teeth get stripped off at a section rather than the belt snapping.
Could have an injection fault, use an OBD reader (here) to read the codes.
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Umm...what do you mean by "it turns the engine"??? Because you then go on to say the starter doesn't engage.
It's possible the pull in solenoid on the starter has rusted up from sitting around and the starter is not running. Or perhaps the same with the carbon brushes?
While someone holds the ignition key in the start position, you can try giving the starter a couple of bangs with the handle of a large screw driver.
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Firstly I would like to thank all of you who have taken the time to help me.
I have been too engrossed in the problem to do this before.
I will try the suggestion of tapping the starter motor next, thanks for that, it does seem as though it could be something like a stuck solenoid
because it all began when it was freezing cold last week and I decided to drain the coolant to add anti- freeze.
I tried to start it to warm the engine to circulate the water, attempts 1,2 and 3 nearly started and then attempt 4 sounded as if the engine was spinning without any attempt to connect and the battery light started flashing.
There was also some clicking ( like solenoids ) from the glove compartment area.
I then recharged and tested the battery and learnt and performed the reset procedure without being able to open the window.
This meant that I had to persuade my wife to come out in the rain and snow and reconnect the battery whilst I sat in the car.
Which I tried several times.
I've since found that I can reconnect the battery then get in the car turn on the side lights, wait a minute and insert the key to reset the system.
My wife has started talking to me again now!
It is raining at the moment so I will try the starter motor later.
The comment about resetting from an earlier post is because it seems to only give me a certain number of attempts before the battery light starts flashing and the screen reads economy mode.
Thanks
I have been too engrossed in the problem to do this before.
I will try the suggestion of tapping the starter motor next, thanks for that, it does seem as though it could be something like a stuck solenoid
because it all began when it was freezing cold last week and I decided to drain the coolant to add anti- freeze.
I tried to start it to warm the engine to circulate the water, attempts 1,2 and 3 nearly started and then attempt 4 sounded as if the engine was spinning without any attempt to connect and the battery light started flashing.
There was also some clicking ( like solenoids ) from the glove compartment area.
I then recharged and tested the battery and learnt and performed the reset procedure without being able to open the window.
This meant that I had to persuade my wife to come out in the rain and snow and reconnect the battery whilst I sat in the car.
Which I tried several times.
I've since found that I can reconnect the battery then get in the car turn on the side lights, wait a minute and insert the key to reset the system.
My wife has started talking to me again now!
It is raining at the moment so I will try the starter motor later.
The comment about resetting from an earlier post is because it seems to only give me a certain number of attempts before the battery light starts flashing and the screen reads economy mode.
Thanks
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Eco mode is designed to protect the battery from discharging too much when the engine isn't running, so it wouldn't be able to start the car.
If Eco mode is activating it suggest to me that your battery is draining which raises the question from a point you mentioned earlier in this topic you said your battery past it's test and measures 12.8 volts. How was the battery tested?
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Thanks for the thoughts about the battery.
I will take it to a battery shop tomorrow as I only used a volt meter. I haven't been out to a shop for 3 months.
When I cleared the economy mode so that all seemed correct on the display just now, I noticed a constant noise coming from behind the battery area when the ignition was on. It was like a fairly quiet humming noise.
Thanks again
I will take it to a battery shop tomorrow as I only used a volt meter. I haven't been out to a shop for 3 months.
When I cleared the economy mode so that all seemed correct on the display just now, I noticed a constant noise coming from behind the battery area when the ignition was on. It was like a fairly quiet humming noise.
Thanks again
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I'm not sure what you mean by having cleared the economy mode. Economy mode cuts off unnecessary electrical drain to preserve the battery, and is simply off as soon as the engine starts.Frankie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:19 pm Thanks for the thoughts about the battery.
I will take it to a battery shop tomorrow as I only used a volt meter. I haven't been out to a shop for 3 months.
When I cleared the economy mode so that all seemed correct on the display just now, I noticed a constant noise coming from behind the battery area when the ignition was on. It was like a fairly quiet humming noise.
Thanks again
The humming noise is quite normal and will continue until a short while after the engine is stopped.
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Putting a multimeter on the battery is not good enough.
You can try loading the battery up with the headlights and see if the battery voltage falls. You can also try starting it (after your reset procedure) and also see if the battery voltage falls.
The terminal voltage of just the battery doesn't tell you much...however, on the surface, 12.8V is not too bad. But you need to see if the voltage drops when the battery has a load of some sort on it.
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The battery passed its test at the garage and they said it was in good condition.
I tried starting the car whilst tapping the starter motor and then the starter solenoid and there was no change and still no start.
When I go back to the car and open the door the battery light flashes (but that may be usual)
Thanks for your help
I tried starting the car whilst tapping the starter motor and then the starter solenoid and there was no change and still no start.
When I go back to the car and open the door the battery light flashes (but that may be usual)
Thanks for your help
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- Gearbox: Automatic PRND
- DPF: No
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Unfortunately that doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong with it.
How mechanical are you? Can you remove the starter? Can you make up a jumper wire and get under the car?
If you get under the car and go to the starter. Short the B+ terminal (with the big wires on it) to the solenoid (has a thin purple wire on it) the starter should turn the engine over. If it does turn over, there is an electronic problem (maby BSM?). If nothing happens the starter has failed. Unfortunately for you, you have a MK2 BSM. The MK1's had a separate plug for the starter solenoid and you could short it out to the battery without crawling under the car.
The car wont go out of economy mode until the car starts and runs.
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