Lagging in power

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My Name: Mad Matty

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Hi Guys, my first time in the forum.
I have a power lag on my citroen c3 attaraction, 2011 petrol model. (about 82000km on the clock)
I took it for a major service in November last year and ever since I had a lag.
They "replaced" the spark plugs and the cambelt was done too 'cause it had little cracks in - ever since I have had a noticible lag in power.
1st,2nd and 3rd gear was great 4th and 5th lags so much so that I can only do about 80km/h on the freeway (uphill)!!
The engine check light came on and the diagnostic machine gave the code for the Bank 1 senson 2 oxygen sensor "stuck"
I bought one and replace it now the heavy petrol smell is gone but the lag persists, eversince i did this the "power" it had in 1st and 2nd is down but it feels much smoother on pull away and do about 90km/h now on the freeway (uphill) but if im not on speed I have to gear back when its an uphill to 2nd or even 1st - which it never used to do I could do that same hill prior to the service in 4th and maybe gear down to 3rd.
I have seen another post on the forum how to clean the accellerator sensor (fly-by-wire sensor) and will that this weekend - but I cant understand the sudden lose in power could something else maybe be wrong?
sometimes the engine check light still comes on but still only shows the lean bank 1 sensor 2 oxygen sensor as stuck, then I just clear the fault - I do not have that potent petrol smell anymore so the sensor must be working.
Any other help would be appreciated if the accellerator sensor is not the culprit.

Thanks
Matty
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Hi Mad Matty

As this all started when you had the car serviced did you go back to the garage that did the work?

My feeling is that they either fitted a wrong part(s) or didn't fit something correctly. I think it's worth spending a little time going over what they did.

Your sensor issue could be connected but from what you're saying I think maybe not.

I'm even thinking could the garage have got the timing out when they replaced the cambelt?
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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2011 (61)
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Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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Thanks that was an initial thought by me too. I did however find that spark plug 2 was never put in tightly and also checked the other spark plugs and put them back the car runs a bit better too after that but should i consider checking the accelleration sensor before checking out the cambelt timing? What would you suggest?
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Oh one thing i also forgot to mention is when i depress the accellerator there is a 1 to 2 second delayed response in the car accellerating. While normally when i used to put my foot on the pedal it would instantly respond.
Thanks for your advise this site is a great site!!
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Mad Matty wrote:Thanks that was an initial thought by me too. I did however find that spark plug 2 was never put in tightly and also checked the other spark plugs and put them back the car runs a bit better too after that but should i consider checking the accelleration sensor before checking out the cambelt timing? What would you suggest?
I would do as Missing Lincs suggested and that is go over the work that was done by the garage. The reasoning is as was suggested,
Missing Lincs wrote:My feeling is that they either fitted a wrong part(s) or didn't fit something correctly. I think it's worth spending a little time going over what they did.
Which makes more sense as a first step than anything unconnected to what was done when the fault appeared.
Mad Matty wrote:sometimes the engine check light still comes on but still only shows the lean bank 1 sensor 2 oxygen sensor as stuck, then I just clear the fault - I do not have that potent petrol smell anymore so the sensor must be working.
I would disagree with your assumption. If the ECU detects a O2 fault, then there is a problem with the fuelling or the fuel burning. The O2 codes don't always mean the sensor is faulty, but the sensor has detected a fault condition.

You can buy a OBD2 reader quite cheaply and probably less than the cost of one 'read' of diagnostics at a garage Here - ebay which will prove to be useful for getting the 'P' codes.
Mad Matty wrote:The engine check light came on and the diagnostic machine gave the code for the Bank 1 senson 2 oxygen sensor "stuck"
Did you get the 'P' code for this from the diagnostic machine?
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My Name: Mad Matty

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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2011 (61)
Engine Size: 1.4
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 82000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
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Hi Guys

Yes I have a diagnostics machine and it gives the P2207 code I think it was - but it also gives what the code is, which is "LEAN BANK 1 SENSOR 2 STUCK" (it also reads bank 1 sensor 2 oxygen sensor in the anual for the code given)
And that is the only code it reads when my check engine light comes on - there are no other error codes it detects.
Should I maybe also check the fuel pump or fuel filter ? (which I feel should actually have been checked in the major service but was not replaced - unless it was checked and did not need replacing - as the air filter was replaced though)
But yeah I will check the accelarator sensor and take the car to be checked out for the timimg as I am a bit scared to fiddle on the cambelt myself :? :)
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