Hi, I decided, today, to sort out the slight misfire on the wife's 1.4 C3 (02 plate). Plugged ODB2 machine in and showed fault P1327. Engine light wasn't on though (or so I thought). Seemed a bit suss so ripped the dash apart to check the EML and found that some ****** had put a small piece of insulating tape over the light. Its probably been on for the last 12 months! Anyway, changed the 'plugs as they were horrible and the car now runs FAR better. The EML is still lit though. I've read that this could be a dodgy coil pack but it looked clean enough when I took it off. Wouldn't the car still be running badly off the coil pack was shot? Its now running like a dream. Any ideas please?
fault showing but better running? P1327
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If your OBD2 can't clear the code and put the MIL out, the car may just do it for you after a number of successful runs with no error. Its built into the car computer that a predefined (by citroen) number of good - i.e. fault code not recorded runs, the computer sees the fault as fixed and clears the light for you. This works for some codes, but I don't know which ones.The EML is still lit though
Investigate clearing the code with the OBD2, if it can't then just drive it around for a couple of weeks and see if the light goes out by itself. Only then start diagnosing other causes of a fault, that may not even exist now.Any ideas please?

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Thanks for the speedy reply! The OBD has the facility to erase faults, which I did. The MIL came back on after about 3 starts.
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With the same error code?The MIL came back on after about 3 starts.
The trouble with error codes from a generic OBD scanner may not give the specific description for the particular combination of ECU, engine and control systems. I had a quick look at P1327 on a 2002 C3 petrol and it suggests 2 reasons, not so helpful, but this code could be used for different faults depending on the equipment you have in the car.
The P1327 could be
Ignition coil, camshaft position (CMP) sensor - control circuit.
or
Ignition - Integrated Phase detection.
So it could well be a ignition problem and if its running so well, unlikely anything major. Coil packs and plugs gone bad all cause poor running. If you want a new coil pack that could cure this, try 'this link' to euro car parts and enter the reg for the correct part selection.
Or click here for a C3 coil pack if the Euro Car Parts site doesn't come up with a coil pack for your reg.
Read the reviews to pick a 4.5 to 5* when looking for coil packs because you my pay more for a better quality part, but it will serve you better.
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Just to possibly help others, I switched the coil pack today,cleared the fault and its not come back after about 10 engine starts.
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Thanks for the update!Just to possibly help others, I switched the coil pack today,cleared the fault and its not come back after about 10 engine starts.
C3 Coil pack is available here on ECP discounted parts.
Does the car run even better now (with the new coil pack), or just as well as it did with the coil pack that gives an error?
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It runs about the same but does sound slightly smoother.
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