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My Name: rdgamers

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Model: C3 2006-2009, Facelift model
Year: 2006 (56)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 90000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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I have replaced my C3 1.4 HDi starter motor, but when i turn the key nothing happens i here 2 click when i turn key but no starter, what can it be Citroen say my car need a software update.

What can be the problem, Why wont it start or turn the engine
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My Name: C3driver52

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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2003 (03)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 79984
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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Engine name: TU3 (75 PS)
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Welcome to the forum rdgamers,

There is not much to go wrong in the starting circuit (turning over of the engine). No computers which helps.


You may have another faulty starter or solenoid if you didn't buy new.

Bad battery or bad battery connections including the earth.

Starter switch (ignition switch) faulty

and the big Maxi Fuse - MF7 in the engine bay - you can find pictures and information on the maxi fuse box here

Engine bay fuse box with the hidden maxi fuses underneath.

Citroen C3 hidden starter motor fuse location - MAXI fuses
Citroen C3 hidden starter motor fuse location - MAXI fuses
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This is the Maxi Fuse box (the row of fuses underneath the engine bay fuse box)

Citroen C3 maxi fuses
Citroen C3 maxi fuses
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That's pretty much the list for getting the starter motor to turn and the solenoid engage :)



There are some images and information on replacing the brushes on the Citroen C3 starter motor here.
My Name: rdgamers

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Model: C3 2006-2009, Facelift model
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Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 90000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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Thanks i had a look at the fuses they all test fine starter new. but still no start. if i brig the starter then the car starts first time
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Thanks i had a look at the fuses they all test fine starter new. but still no start. if i bridge the starter then the car starts first time
Check or test or change the ignition switch.

I edited my previous post to make MF7 - the multi fuse a bit more clear on its location (hidden).
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 160000
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Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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Do the interior lights grow noticeably dimmer when you try to start the engine?
If so then this indicates that the starter is drawing significant current from the battery. You might have an obstruction preventing the engine from turning. To check get a socket snd ratchet on the crank and see if you can turn it in both directions. The correct direction is clockwise BTW
My Name: rdgamers

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Model: C3 2006-2009, Facelift model
Year: 2006 (56)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 90000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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thanks found a dam fuse in the lower corner that went all working now
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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2011 (11)
Engine Size: 1.6
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 75000
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
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I'm glad you sorted it, It's very difficult to diagnose faults by e-mail.
Also anyone not familiar with the actual car might miss the location of a fuse or relay fitted to that particular car.

Having fitted a few new starters and alternators to various vehicles big and small in the past and still having the original fault I always try the starter on the bench before condemning it.
With Alternators the best you can do is check its cables for voltage and connection to the battery.

Modern vehicles make so much harder because the Alternator is often controlled externally in the case of the C3 the BSI tells the alternator how much to output.

It never gets any easier as thing get more complicated, but you should still thoroughly check the basics first before replacing things.

A good example of this was a few years ago a friend had a Clio that would not turn over on the key switch, he assumed the starter had a fault, after sourcing another starter it started once and then refused to start again.

He then supposed an immobiliser fault, wrongly as the dashboard showed no warnings and everything lit up on switching on.

I had a look as the car was stuck on a busy road and got it to start by wiggling the solenoid feed wire.

On getting the car back home and having a better look the solenoid feed wire had a bad crimped joint at the push on connector, replaced for pennies with a new one and all was good.

The original starter bench tested fine too.
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