P1197 and P1351 codes

Questions specifically about a Diesel powered C3 (usually engine or fuel related problems)
Please provide as much description including adding photos directly to the topic or videos you have uploaded via youtube as possible.
Forum rules
One question per topic.
No Gearbox questions
Diesel engine related problems
Think: Diesel engine, diesel fuel system, diesel injectors and glow plugs
My Name: Nsingizi

Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:10 am
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 200000
Trim Level: NA
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: BlueHDi (75 PS)
Location: South Africa

Post

My Citroen 2004 C3 HDi have P1197 and P1351 codes, I took the car for diagnostics check up after seeing and engine light on, the results only showed codes not problems or meaning of codes. I have attached photos, kindly advice.
Attachments
IMG-20211228-WA0003.jpg
IMG-20211228-WA0002.jpg
IMG_20211226_180652_831.jpg
IMG_20211226_180652_831.jpg (41.88 KiB) Viewed 352 times
User avatar
My Name: C3driver52

Guru
Posts: 1877
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:40 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2003 (03)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 79984
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: TU3 (75 PS)
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Post

Hi

You have used a generic scanner to get manufacturers codes and there is no description.

Use a manufacturer tool called lexia (information here) to get the full description of the codes stored
My Name: Nsingizi

Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:10 am
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 200000
Trim Level: NA
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: BlueHDi (75 PS)
Location: South Africa

Post

Thank you for the response, but may you please explain these 2 codes meaning for me, especially P1197 because I have seen few responses on P1351 with regards to glow plugs and relay, also that it's not recommended to change unless there is a problem bif starting the car.

Please clarify P1197 code on C3 HDi if you are able to .

Thank you.
User avatar
My Name: C3driver52

Guru
Posts: 1877
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:40 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2003 (03)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 79984
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: TU3 (75 PS)
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Post

Please clarify P1197 code on C3 HDi if you are able to .
This is what lexia will do for you..


It looks to me like a faulty injector/ECU power driver fault.


Does the car run ok?


You have the wrong engine listed in your car information panel (car bio).

The way to read codes is to read them,record them, erase the ones that will and take the car for a run. Re-read the codes and see what you are left with and how the car ran on the test run.
My Name: Nsingizi

Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:10 am
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 200000
Trim Level: NA
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: BlueHDi (75 PS)
Location: South Africa

Post

The car runs ok for about few kilometers and then the engine light comes on, once the light is on I can feel the difference , the car does this un usual jacking or jumping but still drivable.

I have deleted the codes but these 2 keeps on coming back. The P1197 only shows if the engene light is on.
User avatar
My Name: C3driver52

Guru
Posts: 1877
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:40 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2003 (03)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 79984
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: TU3 (75 PS)
Has thanked: 89 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Post

Nsingizi wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:48 am The car runs ok for about few kilometers and then the engine light comes on, once the light is on I can feel the difference , the car does this un usual jacking or jumping but still drivable.

I have deleted the codes but these 2 keeps on coming back. The P1197 only shows if the engine light is on.
It sounds like it could well be an injector/ECU fault, so the description I suggested for P1197 looks plausible.

The car will need much deeper diagnosis to locate the fault.

I don't think this is a common problem/easy fix and will won't be able to be diagnosed remotely. It needs a better diagnosis tool and someone to do the tests suggested by the tool to identify if it is an ECU, loom or injector problem. Quite probably not worth fixing considering the age of the car vs the cost of diagnosis and parts.
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post