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Just bought a 2004 16V 1.4 HDI with 78000 on clock and......

a VOSA history of much more. But, that's not why Im here. (More later o that :( )

Firstly, I'd like to say what a good forum this is. It has already helped me diagnose and put me right on some of the finer points of the C3. So please keep up the good work!

I have a list of faults, some known at time of purchase, but some not. So I guess if you have any info or solutions that could help me, please blog away. Just to let you know aswell I have a lexia 3 on V47 on the way to me and should be here soon.

Here's the faults I have (so far):

2004 Delphi Inj 16V 1.4 HDI

1. Need to source used Air Intake Pipe - part no 1434.22
2. Need to source OSF Headlamp.
3. Need to source MAF sensor probably (The connector has outside bridged with a jumper wire to make car run right)
4. OSR Door unlocks and locks but initially has to be opened from the inside to get it open. Will open from outside after this.
5. Windscreen has a couple chips marked down as 40mm outside zone A as advisory.
6. NSF CV gaitor worn but not letting in dirt.
7. Engine Light not illuminating on ignition key turn, nor at any other time.
8. On turning engine on, 3 beeps are heard.
9. Drivers wing mirror has bottom cover missing so temp probe flapping about
10. Dvrs wing mirror not heating.
11. Haven't got a owners book, any radio/security/key codes!
12. 2nd key unlocks and locks and fits all the locks but not tuned with the immobiliser.

So, Ive had the car one week and have made some progress :?

Have been able to rectify the heated mirror problem by stripping the mirror down and extending the two black wires that connect to the rear of the mirror glass. God only knows where the original connectors had gone. The connectors fixed to the underside of the internal door trim were intact.

Engine light not illuminating was down to the old chestnut of sticky tape over the light! Took the instrument panel out and stripped it down to remove. Engine light now on.....all the time though!

The 3 beeps relate too how many faults stored on the ecu, handy feature I thought. When I bought the car I thought it was a seat belt warning, how wrong I was.

Fault codes are P1160, P1351 & P0402. I unplugged a few of the sensors and found the jumper wire on the MAF harness. The car runs fine with this "mod" and really lacks power when I removed it. So im guessing this will be the air meter when the lexia 3 tips up and I plug it in.

Oh, have bought owners handbook from ebay and got the transponder code from the dealer £18. Thought that was pricey. Does anyone know if lexia will give me any of the other codes?

So Im left with the following:

1. Need to source used Air Intake Pipe - part no 1434.22
2. Need to source OSF Headlamp.
3. Need to source MAF sensor probably (The connector has outside bridged with a jumper wire to make car run right)
4. OSR Door unlocks and locks but initially has to be opened from the inside to get it open. Will open from outside after this.
5. Windscreen has a couple chips marked down as 40mm outside zone A as advisory.
6. NSF CV gaitor worn but not letting in dirt.
9. Drivers wing mirror has bottom cover missing so temp probe flapping about
12. 2nd key unlocks and locks and fits all the locks but not tuned with the immobiliser.

Thanks for listening and any help appreciated. BTW the car was so cheap I fell in the trap of "only a few cosmetic issues from a minor bump - I can sort that!!!" :cry:

Just hope that the bloke in dewsbury actually sends the V5 in. I did all the checks beforehand and everything came back fine. So I thought it was worth taking a punt as it all looked legit. Wasn't untill VOSA MoT printout after I got home and found out the car has been clocked. Looking at potentially having a motor with over 190,000 m.

But, all things being positive I hope_it_works_out well.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 100000
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
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Welcome to the citroen c3 forum, Hope_it_works_out.

That's quite a project you have taken on.

I will make a start with your shopping list:
2. Need to source OSF Headlamp.
Try here, plenty to choose from, Citroen C3 OS Headlight - here
3. Need to source MAF sensor probably
Citroen C3 HDi 1.4 16v MAF (Mass Aiflow Sensor) - here . The same part is used on several different makes and models, not just for the C3 ;)
4. OSR Door unlocks and locks but initially has to be opened from the inside to get it open. Will open from outside after this.
Have a look at tips-for-any-citroen-c3-f8/c3-rear-door ... -t162.html
If the mechanicals look ok off the car (there is not much to them) I would guess at the lock/unlock motor pack.
9. Drivers wing mirror has bottom cover missing so temp probe flapping about
Citroen C3 Drivers Door Mirror (Electric) - here
12. 2nd key unlocks and locks and fits all the locks but not tuned with the immobiliser.
Have a look at what Missing Lincs says in this post: Citroen C3 Key Required (cheap) and this may be useful too Key fob reprogramming for a Citroen C3


P1160 is a shorted sensor (Air intake, I think)
P1351 is a problem with the pre-heating glow plug relay or glow plug.
P0402 is an EGR problem, see this post for about the EGR:
Citroen C3 1.4 16v HDI EGR Valve removal and refitting topic.
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Arfur - Many thanks for your reply. Have just received the lexia so im going to try it out to get on with some of the engine codes. Will keep the post updated

Cheers :shock:
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Hope_it_works_out wrote:Arfur - Many thanks for your reply. Have just received the lexia so im going to try it out to get on with some of the engine codes. Will keep the post updated

Cheers :shock:
Right.......Few updates to post (sorry taken so long)

1. Need to source used Air Intake Pipe - part no 1434.22 - DONE £32 from the dealer, 5 mins to fit.
3. Need to source MAF sensor probably DONE £135 from the dealwr...ouch! Fitted at the same time as air pipe.
12. 2nd key unlocks and locks and fits all the locks but not tuned with the immobiliser - DONE £27 new key fob from ebay and £10 for auto locksmith to tune it to the ECU.

So, just left with the following...

2. Need to source OSF Headlamp. (Waiting for a cheap one to come up)
4. OSR Door unlocks and locks but initially has to be opened from the inside to get it open. Will open from outside after this. (Waiting for time to do this along with better weather)
5. Windscreen has a couple chips marked down as 40mm outside zone A as advisory. (
6. NSF CV gaitor worn but not letting in dirt. (Waiting for time to do this along with better weather)
9. Drivers wing mirror has bottom cover missing so temp probe flapping about (Waiting for a cheap one to come up)

UPDATE AS OF 19th May 2012

Ordered a wing mirror off of fleabay, couldn't get the exact one i wanted so will have to adapt it for heated mirrors when it arrives! Also fixed the door lock. Now opens okay from the outside as well as the inside.

So...only these left!

2. Need to source OSF Headlamp. (Waiting for a cheap one to come up)
5. Windscreen has a couple chips marked down as 40mm outside zone A as advisory. (
6. NSF CV gaitor worn but not letting in dirt. (Waiting for time to do this along with better weather)
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