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My Name: 8benhard+

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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2005 (05)
Engine Size: 1.4 (8v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 130000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
LHD or RHD: RHD
Engine name: DV4 diesel (70 PS)

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Halo every one
Hope you are well.
I'm from South Africa and getting replacement parts for citroen is very difficult and expensive.
My car is a C3 mk1 1.4 hdi 2005 model. I replaced the thermostat in hoping it solve my open road overheating problem. I took it out for a test drive and as I was starting to get excited seeing it doesn't overheat the engine seezed up. As solid as a rock nothing turning everything is solid even with the Hand it doesn't butch.
Now I need to replace the old engine or overhaul it. In my findings it would be cheaper for me to replace the entire engine.

My question to you is: will a Ford 1.4 tdci engine fit in the citroen as its the same engine manufactured by Ford of Britain and peugeot citroen France?
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Model: C3 Pluriel - with or without roof
Year: 2003 (53)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 30000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: ET3 16-valve (90 PS)
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8benhard+ wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:27 am My question to you is: will a Ford 1.4 tdci engine fit in the citroen as its the same engine manufactured by Ford of Britain and peugeot citroen France?
Hi

The engine core will be the same, but ancillaries, mounts, wiring and brackets etc could all be different. You will obviously have these from the original engine and all the parts could, potentially be swapped to the replacement engine.

So in theory, yes.

But you are asking about Ford on a Citroen forum, so the full knowledge is limited, maybe you will have the same problem asking on a Ford forum?

8benhard+ wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:27 am I took it out for a test drive and as I was starting to get excited seeing it doesn't overheat the engine seezed up


My concern for you over engine swaps, ancillary replacement, bracket and wiring looms is laid out above.

You didn't say why it had seized up, this is very uncommon and I would imagine caused by a severe neglect to the maintenance schedule and quite probably the basics of oil.
8benhard+ wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:27 am getting replacement parts for citroen is very difficult and expensive.
This is also going to be a problem if you can't get all the parts off the old engine or they are broken or become broken on disassembly, you will invariably need to source some new parts and it may even be beneficial to renew parts like the clutch or starter while the engine is out can save time and money later if the mileage is nearing the end of is life.
My Name: 8benhard+

Contributor
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:29 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2005 (05)
Engine Size: 1.4 (8v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 130000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: Yes
LHD or RHD: RHD
Engine name: DV4 diesel (70 PS)

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Halo every one an update on the hdi engine...
I removed the covers and removed the head...
The head gasket is blown, cylinder head is cracked, two pistons seems damaged and the sleeves looks like it took some damage as well.
A friend of mine (A mechanic of trade) came over the other day and said this is caused by overheating but the warning lights never came on... I bought this car second from a private deal and am not sure of the previous owners and maintenance neglect.
Ive done a major service in January this... And all seemed good to me.
I will be better of replacing the entire engine, money wise it makes better sense to me because as I stated before sourcing citroen parts in RSA is very difficult and expensive.
Still not sure about the Ford Duratorq tdci engine thou...
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