1.4 hdi 16v flashing battery and eco mode. Turns over, won't start

Arfur Dent wrote:You need to look again. Your 2003 Diesel is the same as the other 2002-2006 Diesels, petrols and some other Citroen models when it comes to the engine bay fuse box

If you find any thing different, please take a picture and attach it. It may help others later

Found em, what a stupid bloody design, why why why go into this level of design. bonkers.

Anyway fuses are fine - no where do I go ? BSI Unit ?

Found maxi fuse, well hidden thanks to GURU or else I would have never found them. Bad news is that they're all ok.

Where do i go next ? BSI ? This has fuses to how do i remove his unit the threads on how to are not very clear.

I've removed the glove box door and twisted the white knobs but how ther heck do you get it out, seems to be hinged at the rear.

Anyone got a BSI + ecu + keys for sale Just in case ?

eddy dar wrote:This has fuses to how do i remove his unit the threads on how to are not very clear.

I've removed the glove box door and twisted the white knobs but how ther heck do you get it out, seems to be hinged at the rear.

The forum gets updated as people add solutions they find. There are some new pictures showing how to swing down the BSI module in the topic Citroen C3 fuse box locations



Press the ledge to swing down the BSI.

eddy dar wrote:Where do i go next ? BSI ?

A quick check of all the fuses is a good idea. Everything but the maxi fuses are quite simple to check visually after removing them. Testing with a multimeter is more accurate?

eddy dar wrote: Anyone got a BSI + ecu + keys for sale Just in case ?

The Delphi ones are not as common as the bosch/siemens as only the 16v has a delphi ECU.
There is one currently on ebay in this link.

Guru do you think that the bsi has had it ?

Also what about things like mileage and radio codes ? I've read that the mileage will be set to the higher value. But surely the radio codes shoudl still be the same ?

eddy dar wrote: Guru do you think that the bsi has had it ?

No. I wouldn't say the BSI was bad until I had at least checked voltage to it. Too many people swap out parts when there is no fault with the part, just through a lack of diagnosis. It gets time consuming and expensive in the case of the BSI/ECU pair, not so with a MAF or Accelerator Pedal. The BSI is supplied by the BSM (engine bay fuse box). Check there is 12v at the BSI before you can blame it.

There is a good diagram of BSI power in the haynes manual

I have sent you a PM which may help

Arfur Dent wrote:

eddy dar wrote: Anyone got a BSI + ecu + keys for sale Just in case ?

The Delphi ones are not as common as the bosch/siemens as only the 16v has a delphi ECU.
There is one currently on ebay in this link.

I think Arfur was just replying to your 'just in case' request.

eddy dar wrote:I've read that the mileage will be set to the higher value. But surely the radio codes shoudl still be the same ?

Mileage is stored in the BSI and radio is VIN coded to the BSI.

Hi Guru & allwho have helped. Update ;

I have checked fuses on fusebox and all seemfine.

I didn't panic and buy a new bsi,ecu and key.

I charged battery tried some easy start and now whilst it wont start have managed to get it out of eco-mode.

I have also managed to communicate with the cu and got fault code p0215 stop solenoid. Cleared it and still wont start.

As I have changed an injector the whole system needs checking for air leaks/fuel leaks.

Will keep all posted of outcome.

eddy dar wrote: have also managed to communicate with the cu and got fault code p0215 stop solenoid. Cleared it and still wont start.

Clearing codes won't fix the fault if the fault is permanent and being reported correctly. P0215 is an indication of a physical condition and not the problem it self.

P0125 - stop solenoid, is telling you the car is inhibited from starting. I would guess the 'stop solenoid' is controlled and referring to the 'double pole relay' in the BSM module. The thing you have to do is find out WHY the double pole relay is not energised, this will then allow you to sort that and all the other things will fall into place.

eddy dar wrote:As I have changed an injector the whole system needs checking for air leaks/fuel leaks.

After the P0125 is cured


What does starter speed and fuel pressure in the common rail show in 'live data' when you try to start or even running on gas?
or anything else that can inhibit the fuel supply from ECU control?


A bit like this?

and probably the immobiliser

didn't get that far. Its the first time i've had a chance to do anything with it. I think the fault code was somehow linked to the eco mode issue. Or more than likely due to the fact that I had found the main power wire supplying the fuse box loose. Once tightened & cleared its not re-appeared.

The starter is slow and makes a booming noise.

Will put my machine and check the engine speed & rail fuel pressure.