Pluriel rear hatch not opening on one side

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Hi there

I have a 2008 Pluriel and today when I went to retract the rear screen into the boot (by pressing the internal button underneath the screen) only one side seemed to unlock. I just wondered if this was a common fault, or any guidance on where to start investigating?

The hatch opens with the external button fine, it's only when I want to fully retract the roof (open it to rotate it into the boot space).

Many thanks

Tim
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tim04 wrote:Hi there

I have a 2008 Pluriel and today when I went to retract the rear screen into the boot (by pressing the internal button underneath the screen) only one side seemed to unlock. I just wondered if this was a common fault, or any guidance on where to start investigating?

The hatch opens with the external button fine, it's only when I want to fully retract the roof (open it to rotate it into the boot space).

Many thanks

Tim
Hi Tim.

The pluriel roof is a complicated mechanical thing with electrical control and gives many problems when it breaks. Some would say the roof itself is a common fault :lol:

The drive from the motors that retract the roof can give problems when the runner drive wire gets seized or tight.

Inspecting the drive on the side that doesn't retract may be a good place to start investigating.

This is one of the roof slide drive units

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From this Roof issue investigation topic.
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Model: C3 Pluriel - with or without roof
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Engine Size: 1.4
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Mileage: 33000
Trim Level: NA
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
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Hi Arfur

Thanks for the reply; I've just come in from investigating the roof after another fault....the car doesn't go very far as my wife only uses it locally but a couple of weeks ago she took it on a 100 mile trip and as she was packing up the rear hatch came off on one side (common fault with rear hinge). She had no real option other than drive home (slowly) but the roof at the front was pulled forward as a result of the hatch slipping down. I managed to remove the roof motor which allowed me to slide the hatch back into the closed position and pull the roof on one side manually. I now have a replacement hinge which I will fit tomorrow but thankfully the roof retracts as it should. The rear hatch still won't open on one side but I can remove the catch from the inside and investigate further (there is a youtube video). I was going to give up on the car but I am now fast becoming up to speed with the internals of the Pluriel roof!
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tim04 wrote:I was going to give up on the car but I am now fast becoming up to speed with the internals of the Pluriel roof!
Great work. Take pictures if you can to help guide you to putting it all back together and they come in useful for the forum too.

Let us know how you get on please :)
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Update

Last weekend I decided to replace the broken hinge which was straightforward. I then decided to tackle the leaky rear hatch; I found a thread on here that pointed to the Citroen rear trim so I removed it (cutting through the sealant) and cleaned it up. I then applied non-setting sealant (normally used for gutters) and it seems to have cured the leak.

I decided to tackle the problem with the rear hatch not disengaging to allow the hatch to be stowed in the boot. One of the actuators wasn't working, and I noticed it was moving/chattering when I was retracting the roof so I suspected broken wires in the loom which were picking up current from another wire for the roof motor. I cut off the braided sleeving and was really surprised to see a number of broken wires.... I've ordered some new braiding and wire and will replace the whole section of loom next week - will report back!!
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tim04 wrote:Update

Last weekend I decided to replace the broken hinge which was straightforward. I then decided to tackle the leaky rear hatch; I found a thread on here that pointed to the Citroen rear trim so I removed it (cutting through the sealant) and cleaned it up. I then applied non-setting sealant (normally used for gutters) and it seems to have cured the leak.

I decided to tackle the problem with the rear hatch not disengaging to allow the hatch to be stowed in the boot. One of the actuators wasn't working, and I noticed it was moving/chattering when I was retracting the roof so I suspected broken wires in the loom which were picking up current from another wire for the roof motor. I cut off the braided sleeving and was really surprised to see a number of broken wires.... I've ordered some new braiding and wire and will replace the whole section of loom next week -
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This part is very well covered in this topic - How to replace the Pluriel rear window hinge.



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will report back!!
Thank you :)
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Engine Size: 1.4
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Trim Level: NA
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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I spent today (in the cold) sorting out the wiring in the Pluriel; I cut out the old wiring inside the car close to the hatch strut and soldered the connections and then bundled the new wires through the foam cable guide which goes through the tailgate; this had to be cut out carefully as the old wires were glued in place so it could be used again. I then used some cable sheathing to match the old bundle and then soldered it up to the wiring leading to the motor etc.

Glad to say it's working perfectly! (and the previous silicone I applied to the Citroen trim seems to have cured the leaks. I just need some nice weather to get the roof down!
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tim04 wrote:I spent today (in the cold) sorting out the wiring in the Pluriel; I cut out the old wiring inside the car close to the hatch strut and soldered the connections and then bundled the new wires through the foam cable guide which goes through the tailgate; this had to be cut out carefully as the old wires were glued in place so it could be used again. I then used some cable sheathing to match the old bundle and then soldered it up to the wiring leading to the motor etc.

Glad to say it's working perfectly! (and the previous silicone I applied to the Citroen trim seems to have cured the leaks. I just need some nice weather to get the roof down!
Thanks for the update, well done getting it sorted :)
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