Wheel alignment/tracking

Hi,

Does anyone know if the tracking spec is the same for all C3s? I have a 1.4HDi on 59 plate but can only find the specs for cars upto 2004 which states:-

FL Toe -0.13 to -0.04
FR Toe -0.13 to -0.04

zebedee2001 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:11 pm Hi,

Does anyone know if the tracking spec is the same for all C3s? I have a 1.4HDi on 59 plate but can only find the specs for cars upto 2004 which states:-

FL Toe -0.13 to -0.04
FR Toe -0.13 to -0.04

Hi

I don't have the information to hand to confirm but I know that the running gear on the pre facelift and facelift models of the 2002 shape have the same running gear.

I would expect the same running gear to have the same setup

Just had a look in the Haynes manual & it states Toe Setting Front should be 0+/-1.0mm, however elsewhere on the web I found FL Toe -0.13 to -0.04, FR Toe -0.13 to -0.04 (no units) what is correct?

Hi,

These are the front suspension geometry settings for models of the Citroen C3 2002 to 2009


CRD is the off road/heavy duty/difficult terrain suspension, rather than the normal road going suspension.



N.B. : Front of the vehicle (following the arrow ).
A less than B : Positive figure (+) (toe-in).
A more than B : Negative figure (-) ( opening).

Citroen C3 (2002-2009) Front Suspension

Engine Fitted	Wheel dimensions	Camber (*) (± 0° 30’)	Castor (*) (± 0° 18’)	Pivot angle (*) (± 0° 30’)	Tracking adjustable
TU1, TU3, DV4TD	14 inches 15 inches	-0°28’"	3°57’"	11°24’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’
ET3, DV6ATED4	15 inches 16 inches	-0°28’"	3°57’"	11°24’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’
TU5 MA, TU5 MAP	15 inches 16 inches	-0°28’"	3°57’"	11°24’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’
TU5 AL4, DV6TED4	16 inches	-0°27’"	3°56’"	11°23’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’
TU3, DV4TD (C.R.D.)	14 inches 15 inches	-0°25’"	3°53’"	11°13’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’
TU5 (C.R.D.)	15 inches	-0°25’"	3°53’"	11°13’"	-0°17’ ± 0°09’

(*) Non-adjustable.
Lower castor dissymmetry at 0°30’.
Lower camber dissymmetry at 0°18’.



and why have 1 table? when two would suffice

Tracking : Difference between distance A and distance B (Front of the vehicle : In the direction of the arrow).,A < B : Toe-in.,A > B : Opening

Citroen C3 2002-2009	Vehicle for Europe	CRD vehicles	CRD vehicles
Engines	TU1 - TU3 - DV4TD - ET3 - DV6ATED4 TU5 MA -TU5 MAP	TU5 AL4 - DV6TED4	All
Camber (not adjustable)	-0°28' ± 0° 30'	-0°27' ± 0° 30'	-0°25' ± 0° 30'
Castor (not adjustable)	3°57' ± 0° 18'	3°56' ± 0° 18'	3°53' ± 0° 18'
Pivot angle (not adjustable)	11°24' ± 0° 30'	11°23' ± 0° 30'	11°13' ± 0° 30'
Tracking at the axle	-0°17' ± 0°09'	-0°17' ± 0°09'	-0°17' ± 0°09'

Lower castor dissymmetry at 0°30’Lower camber dissymmetry at 0°18’

zebedee2001 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:23 pm (no units) what is correct?

Obviously without any units, the numbers are meaningless

Thanks for the help. I adjusted it back within limits all from the side where I had changed the track rod end. Now the steering wheel is 15 to 20 degree to the right when driving straight. It was to be expected I suppose as I don't knwo what the tracking was like before I changed the track rod end (it certainly used to wear the inside of the tyres but I put that down to me driving quickly round roundabouts!) I'm going to drive it around for a week to let it settle then re-measure it. As the stering wheel has a centre position centre will it cause any issues driving with a slight offset?

As the stering wheel has a centre position centre will it cause any issues driving with a slight offset?

It won't unless you have the ESP where the ECU knows the direction of the car and the position of the steering wheel to make braking on a corner adjustments.