Hi all, trying to see if I can get my 2002 hdi c3 started, but it seems to have picked up more issues than when it died on me a little while back (didn't fix it then just due to lack of funds).
I've trickle charged the battery to full and now it sits around 12.8v. Now when I turn the key to first position, there are lots of periodic clicks mostly from the glove box fuse box (I'm assuming relay clicks) . The dashboard doesn't light up and the tachometer needle nudges around very slightly.
Sometimes, the clicking stops and leaves a whine coming from around the engine fuse box but still doesn't light the dash and turning the key further to on (and to ignition) doesn't do anything either.
As I was looking in the fusebox trying to pinpoint the clicking (though, it may be from multiple sources) I took out the shunt fuse as I read somewhere taking it out for a little while can reset the bsi. I tried to turn the key whilst it was out, and it lead to a longer period in between clicks and the dashboard lighting up and turning off with each click. Not sure if that's helpful but thought I'd include it.
Even though the battery reads fine, I tried to jump start it as most online resources seem to point to the battery as the source for lots of clicks. Doing so lead to the same issue, so no further forward there.
If anyone has any ideas what it could be, or further things to check, I could really do with the input as I'm a bit stumped.
Thanks,
Jack
No start - lots of clicking on first turn of key
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Hello Jack.pterojackdyl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:12 pm Hi all, trying to see if I can get my 2002 hdi c3 started, but it seems to have picked up more issues than when it died on me a little while back (didn't fix it then just due to lack of funds).
I've trickle charged the battery to full and now it sits around 12.8v. Now when I turn the key to first position, there are lots of periodic clicks mostly from the glove box fuse box (I'm assuming relay clicks) . The dashboard doesn't light up and the tachometer needle nudges around very slightly.
Sometimes, the clicking stops and leaves a whine coming from around the engine fuse box but still doesn't light the dash and turning the key further to on (and to ignition) doesn't do anything either.
As I was looking in the fusebox trying to pinpoint the clicking (though, it may be from multiple sources) I took out the shunt fuse as I read somewhere taking it out for a little while can reset the bsi. I tried to turn the key whilst it was out, and it lead to a longer period in between clicks and the dashboard lighting up and turning off with each click. Not sure if that's helpful but thought I'd include it.
Even though the battery reads fine, I tried to jump start it as most online resources seem to point to the battery as the source for lots of clicks. Doing so lead to the same issue, so no further forward there.
If anyone has any ideas what it could be, or further things to check, I could really do with the input as I'm a bit stumped.
Thanks,
Jack
Yes, click click click from the solenoid of the starter motor usually points to a bad battery.
But it just means not enough energy is getting to the starter, so that can be a bad earth, bad live connection and even a faulty starter motor.
If you have other weird electrical things with the dashboard, I would definitely be looking at earths along with the battery.
Seeing as you tried to jump it, and it still didn't turn over, suspect an earth or the starter itself.
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The clicking happens before trying to start (the accessory and on position) not when I try and twist to ignition - nothing different happens when I twist to ignition though, so it'd be right to say that the starter is also not getting enough power, but would a broken starter cause the other issues?
A ground issue might be the culprit, went out to check with my multimeter 12.8v across the battery terminals and anywhere between 4 and 12.8v at different metal points around the engine bay I tested.
Thinking about it, I jumped it clipping onto a random bolt in the engine bay-so it probably wasn't even a good jump if there's ground issues.
I suppose the fix for this is to check the ground points, is there a way to narrow down which I need to check?
Jack
A ground issue might be the culprit, went out to check with my multimeter 12.8v across the battery terminals and anywhere between 4 and 12.8v at different metal points around the engine bay I tested.
Thinking about it, I jumped it clipping onto a random bolt in the engine bay-so it probably wasn't even a good jump if there's ground issues.
I suppose the fix for this is to check the ground points, is there a way to narrow down which I need to check?
Jack
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Ok, so it isn't the classic 'click click click' no start.pterojackdyl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:40 pm The clicking happens before trying to start (the accessory and on position) not when I try and twist to ignition - nothing different happens when I twist to ignition though, so it'd be right to say that the starter is also not getting enough power, but would a broken starter cause the other issues?
It sounds like the starter is getting NO power.
That can point to the ignition switch and some times the hidden maxi fuse box fuses that has a fuse for the ignition. This fuse can blow with a faulty starter motor, so bad starter may have blown the big fuse.
Citroen C3 Maxi fuse ratings.
Have you put the park shunt back in the right place?
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I would say that you have a fundamental power supply problem.
Being a manual gearbox, the starter is DIRECTLY connected to the ignition switch and the battery. There are no relays or electronics. So, if nothing else, the starter should turn the engine over when you turn the ignition to start.
Check the battery terminals and the battery leads for corrosion. Check the positive lead from the battery terminal to the fusebox in the engine bay, check the nut on the stud in the fuse box.
Check the positive battery lead that goes around the back of the engine to the starter. Check the nut on the stud of the starter.
Check for a good connection from the battery negative to the gearbox and to the cars' frame. The connection to the frame is under the battery box. ESPECIALLY CHECK THIS CONNECTION! More than anything I think you have a bad ground (no current return to the negative battery terminal).
Otherwise there are multiple failures and they will need to be addressed one at a time.
Being a manual gearbox, the starter is DIRECTLY connected to the ignition switch and the battery. There are no relays or electronics. So, if nothing else, the starter should turn the engine over when you turn the ignition to start.
Check the battery terminals and the battery leads for corrosion. Check the positive lead from the battery terminal to the fusebox in the engine bay, check the nut on the stud in the fuse box.
Check the positive battery lead that goes around the back of the engine to the starter. Check the nut on the stud of the starter.
Check for a good connection from the battery negative to the gearbox and to the cars' frame. The connection to the frame is under the battery box. ESPECIALLY CHECK THIS CONNECTION! More than anything I think you have a bad ground (no current return to the negative battery terminal).
Otherwise there are multiple failures and they will need to be addressed one at a time.
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