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Hello
I have just gotten a free set of alloys from my friend who is selling his Citroën C4. The wheels fit nicely but when turning the wheel all the way to either side the tire is rubbing slightly at the wheel arch. They are original Citroën alloys and they have the conical bolts with flat washers. I was thinking about fitting a 5mm spacer to stop the tire from rubbing. I have looked for longer bolts but I can't find the correct length for the bolt where both the conical and flat washer was a part of it.
So I want to know, is it possible using a bolt which is straigth with a flat head or a bolt which is conical without the washer?
Best regards
Nego
I have just gotten a free set of alloys from my friend who is selling his Citroën C4. The wheels fit nicely but when turning the wheel all the way to either side the tire is rubbing slightly at the wheel arch. They are original Citroën alloys and they have the conical bolts with flat washers. I was thinking about fitting a 5mm spacer to stop the tire from rubbing. I have looked for longer bolts but I can't find the correct length for the bolt where both the conical and flat washer was a part of it.
So I want to know, is it possible using a bolt which is straigth with a flat head or a bolt which is conical without the washer?
Best regards
Nego
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Hi
You don't need both the washer and the conical fitting. They are supplied to allow for a alloy wheel and steel space saver spare. The same wheel nuts can be used on both steel and alloy.
You only need the wheel nut that is suitable for your C4 wheel. If you have a steel spare wheel, carry a set of original bots in the boot for the times you are forced to use the spare.
You don't need both the washer and the conical fitting. They are supplied to allow for a alloy wheel and steel space saver spare. The same wheel nuts can be used on both steel and alloy.
You only need the wheel nut that is suitable for your C4 wheel. If you have a steel spare wheel, carry a set of original bots in the boot for the times you are forced to use the spare.
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Okay, understanding you right I could use a straight bolt with a flat head just as the genuine Citroën one just without the conical part? As I understand the conical part of the bolt has no function in tightening the alloy to the hub.C3CAR wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 2:12 pm Hi
You don't need both the washer and the conical fitting. They are supplied to allow for a alloy wheel and steel space saver spare. The same wheel nuts can be used on both steel and alloy.
You only need the wheel nut that is suitable for your C4 wheel. If you have a steel spare wheel, carry a set of original bots in the boot for the times you are forced to use the spare.
The inside of the alloy has a conical cutout where the bolt fits perfectly. But I don't really understand if the flat part or conical part is pressing the alloy to the hub.
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The conical part is for the alloy wheel.
The washer is for the steel wheel.
The washer is for the steel wheel.
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Are you sure it's not the other way around?Arfur Dent wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:47 pm The conical part is for the alloy wheel.
The washer is for the steel wheel.
The washer does not touch the steel rims but the conical part does.
When the alloys are on it looks like the clamping forces are on the washer
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questions-about-a-citroen-c3-not-relate ... t3608.htmlArfur Dent wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:47 pm Are you sure it's not the other way around?
The washer does not touch the steel rims but the conical part does.
When the alloys are on it looks like the clamping forces are on the washer![]()
I think the confusion comes from the aftermarket locking wheel nuts for the alloy only has a taper.
So you need to be sure which bolts you actually have...
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It's the one on the first picture that I have.C3CAR wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 3:36 pmquestions-about-a-citroen-c3-not-relate ... t3608.htmlArfur Dent wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:47 pm Are you sure it's not the other way around?
The washer does not touch the steel rims but the conical part does.
When the alloys are on it looks like the clamping forces are on the washer![]()
Citroen_c3_wheel_nut_alloy-diagram.jpg
I think the confusion comes from the aftermarket locking wheel nuts for the alloy only has a taper.
Locking_wheel_nuts.jpg
So you need to be sure which bolts you actually have...
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Must have missed this one, but reading the posts, hasn’t it got a little lost in translation. As I understand the OP.
He has got a new set of rims that need a 5mm spacer to prevent them from rubbing on the arches, so he’s asking about wheel bolt sizes. ie length!
Surely point one is that the wheels / rims are incorrect for the car as the offset is incorrect, or they would not rub.
He has got a new set of rims that need a 5mm spacer to prevent them from rubbing on the arches, so he’s asking about wheel bolt sizes. ie length!
Surely point one is that the wheels / rims are incorrect for the car as the offset is incorrect, or they would not rub.
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