Does My C3 have a Dual Mass Flywheel - DMF - Clutch trouble

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ns87
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:59 pm
Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (10)
Engine Size: 1.6
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 120000
Trim Level: Airdream+
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
Left or Right Hand Drive (LHD/RHD): RHD (UK)
Engine name: DV4 16-valve (diesel) (90 PS)

Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:26 pm

Hi,

I'm the new owner of a mk2 2010 C3 1.6 HDI Airdream, bought as a frugal motorway commuter. My only concern after test driving the car was the feel of the clutch, but I took the plunge thinking it may just be a case of getting used to the clutch..........well that and the price was right.

So, firstly the bite is very high, I'd probably say 80-90% of the travel before it bites. After a bit of reading on the forum a high bite on these isn't unheard of although a lot of the material online seems to be relating to the mk1 pre-2009. Is this the norm for the facelift models also? The car is on 120k with no evidence of a clutch change so could well be due but the car does not have the rev/slipping symptoms relating to a worn clutch apart from that high bite and a terrible feel as described below......

Secondly, on the bite the car/clutch pedal vibrates a lot, to the point where a smooth take off in 1st is a rare thing. Going through the gears when moving all seems fine it's just 1st and reverse that is not a great experience. With the pedal vibrating so much the actual biting point becomes vague and it just makes setting off a pain in the rear.

Do I have a DMF, and would the second symptom point towards a DMF issue if I do? I'm looking to get a friend mechanic to replace the clutch as a side job so I can order a clutch kit in but I'm worried the DMF will hike the bill up some what.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance all.
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Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:47 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 100000
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
Left or Right Hand Drive (LHD/RHD): RHD (UK)
Engine name: DV4 16-valve (diesel) (90 PS)

Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:47 pm

ns87 wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:26 pm
Hi,

I'm the new owner of a mk2 2010 C3 1.6 HDI Airdream, bought as a frugal motorway commuter. My only concern after test driving the car was the feel of the clutch, but I took the plunge thinking it may just be a case of getting used to the clutch..........well that and the price was right.

So, firstly the bite is very high, I'd probably say 80-90% of the travel before it bites. After a bit of reading on the forum a high bite on these isn't unheard of although a lot of the material online seems to be relating to the mk1 pre-2009. Is this the norm for the facelift models also? The car is on 120k with no evidence of a clutch change so could well be due but the car does not have the rev/slipping symptoms relating to a worn clutch apart from that high bite and a terrible feel as described below......

Secondly, on the bite the car/clutch pedal vibrates a lot, to the point where a smooth take off in 1st is a rare thing. Going through the gears when moving all seems fine it's just 1st and reverse that is not a great experience. With the pedal vibrating so much the actual biting point becomes vague and it just makes setting off a pain in the rear.

Do I have a DMF, and would the second symptom point towards a DMF issue if I do? I'm looking to get a friend mechanic to replace the clutch as a side job so I can order a clutch kit in but I'm worried the DMF will hike the bill up some what.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance all.
If you PM me your VIN , I can check to see which flywheel you have.

The grumbling takeoff is a sign of the clutch getting old and may not be the flywheel.

If you have a DMF then it would be prudent to change it when you have the clutch changed.
crysti79
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Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:42 pm
Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (54)
Engine Size: 1.4 (8v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
Mileage: 80000
Trim Level: SX
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
Left or Right Hand Drive (LHD/RHD): LHD (Europe)
Engine name: DV4 (diesel) (70 PS)

Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:14 pm

I'm almost sure that you don't have DMF. They were mounted on 110 and 115 hp engines. On 90/92 HP engines were mounted simple flywheels.
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