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Hi All, Still waiting for my Lexia 3 to come should be here within the next week all being well. I have been having a problem with the central locking which I have had some help with on this site. I feel that the problem is going to be a relay in the BSI, the doors lock but will not open again, I have over-ridden the BSI so they are permanently open. The question is once I have done some checks with the Lexia and all things lead to the BSI, I was going to send it to BBA Reman. I have looked at some Google reviews and they are terrible with bad workmanship and awful customer service. Has any one had any problems themselves with them? If so I may have to send the BSI somewhere else which would be a shame as I live near their Richmond office.
Thanks, Jeff
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Outbound1 wrote:Hi All, Still waiting for my Lexia 3 to come should be here within the next week all being well. I have been having a problem with the central locking which I have had some help with on this site. I feel that the problem is going to be a relay in the BSI, the doors lock but will not open again, I have over-ridden the BSI so they are permanently open. The question is once I have done some checks with the Lexia and all things lead to the BSI, I was going to send it to BBA Reman. I have looked at some Google reviews and they are terrible with bad workmanship and awful customer service. Has any one had any problems themselves with them? If so I may have to send the BSI somewhere else which would be a shame as I live near their Richmond office.
Thanks, Jeff
Hi Jeff
I have an additional idea, but can you remind me if the central locking worked from inside by pressing the switch on the dashboard or if its a remote keyfob fault?

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Hi, C3Car's, It would only lock with the centre button. Once locked that was it,it wouldn't open again. I have refitted the Child lock relay today, but the child lock switch light stayed on with the relay in or not. So its still the same everything locks but won't open. Although I did the trick of putting 12v though the BSI connector I was only able to open the rear doors from the outside, I suppose due the child lock stuck on.
Thanks again for your help, Jeff
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Sorry I also meant to say that it is the same when using the key fob, locks fine but will not re open.
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Outbound1 wrote:Sorry I also meant to say that it is the same when using the key fob, locks fine but will not re open.
No problem, this is what I wanted to know, thanks.

My suggestion to possibly save some money by being absolutely sure the BSI is at fault before sending it off. There are quite a few returns of ECU and BSI units that 'have no fault found', which cost money to test and further diagnose the problem.

You could try this:

1. When your lexia arrives, connect up and make a record of the current BSI configuration for locking and anything that seems relevant to locks and doors.

2. Find a used, but working BSI from a 2002-2005 model C3, you only need the BSI (which is useless on its own) which means you can pick one up quite cheaply from these ebay listings (click here). It only needs to be a BSI and not the whole kit, which brings the cost right down.

3. Fit the new BSI and configure using lexia to as close as you can, particularly the locks and doors need to match your original BSI.

4. Test the locking and unlocking with the button on the dash.


This will prove or disprove the BSI or other parts of the car at fault.

The remote fob won't work, and you won't ever get it to work with the new BSI.
The car won't start and it won't ever start with the new BSI.

But swapping your old BSI back in will get the fob and engine back to where it was.

SO for a bit of time and some money for a known good, but scrap BSI can prove the rest of the car and either make you 100% sure sending the BSI off is the right thing to do or... not...

It will also give you a crash course in finding your way around lexia ;)


There is a topic for removing the BSI - HERE.

and the lexia topic is HERE.
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Thanks once again for the in-depth info. I will certainly give that a go. I will let you know how I get on.
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Hi, sorry one quick thing. I have seen one on ebay for £12. If I connect it will it change the mileage on the dashboard permanently. Thanks again
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Outbound1 wrote:Hi, sorry one quick thing. I have seen one on ebay for £12. If I connect it will it change the mileage on the dashboard permanently. Thanks again
Good point, that I forgot to mention :oops:

Yes, and no. The mileage will settle to the highest one that is stored. So if the BSI is higher than the dash the BSI get stored in both. If the dash is higher than the BSI, the dash gets stored in the BSI. These settings can't be fixed by lexia :(

You could try disconnecting the dash connection to the BSI, you shouldn't need the dash diaplay to unlock or lock the car. The dash disconnected will generate errors, but lexia can clear them with ease when its all plugged back in, if needed.

But then again, will you be selling it on or running it into the ground and does an extra 100 000 miles make any difference?
Outbound1 wrote:Thanks once again for the in-depth info. I will certainly give that a go. I will let you know how I get on.
No problem.

If the info helps you, please add any extra tips you find along the way including any photos you take to help identify how it all goes back together and put it in the forums tips section. Thanks! :)
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Hi C3car,
Thanks again for last nights info. I have come up with an idea similar to what you suggested, which I saw with a Belingo that had the same problem. What he did to get the central locking working, after suspecting the relays in the BSI, was to get a second had one with which he carefully prised the two parts apart. He said that the bottom half is the brains of the outfit and the top halve consists of the relays etc. He didn't have any problems with the programming as it was the same brains in the bottom halve. The c/l did work afterwards. I have ordered a second hand one off of Ebay and the same part number, I just hope that I don't mess it up splitting the unit, but he said if you take it gently it is quite straight forward.
I will let you know how I got on.
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Outbound1 wrote:Hi C3car,
Thanks again for last nights info. I have come up with an idea similar to what you suggested, which I saw with a Belingo that had the same problem. What he did to get the central locking working, after suspecting the relays in the BSI, was to get a second had one with which he carefully prised the two parts apart. He said that the bottom half is the brains of the outfit and the top halve consists of the relays etc. He didn't have any problems with the programming as it was the same brains in the bottom halve. The c/l did work afterwards. I have ordered a second hand one off of Ebay and the same part number, I just hope that I don't cock it up splitting the unit, but he said if you take it gently it is quite straight forward.
I will let you know how I got on.
Jeff
Yes, please do. I must have been too heavy handed as I pretty much destroyed the busted BSI that I separated to get the pictures for the 'BSI - the inside story' ;)


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But if you do make a hash of it and the BSI becomes unusable you will need to buy a complete matched kit of BSI, engine ECU and Key(s) to get it running again :(