ABS C1335 error, can’t clear

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Hi all

I’ve used quite a lot of the information and posts in this forum to try and solve this issue.

I have a 2010 Picasso with the ABS light on dash.

Used ODB reader to reveal C1335 code.

Used forum to determine this is off side rear ABS sensor.

Replaced sensor, and in process replaced the rear discs and pads as knackered.

Fault didn’t clear.

Tested the wiring from ABS module in front near side wheel arch to sensor plug near rear wheel for continuity, but wiring failed. Located a break in the wiring where cable runs past fuel tank, just before it passes into cabin.

Soldered and heat shrunk the wire, and retested for continuity. Success. Also, reading 12v at the abs sensor socket, rising to 14v when ending running.

Reconnected ABS sensor, but fault didn’t clear.

Saw on forum the suggestion to drive a short distance to clear fault, but that didn’t clear fault.

I’ve retested with multimeter for continuity from ABS module to ABS sensor plug, and got continuity and 12v.

I’m not sure what to do now. I know wiring loom from ABS module is now sound. ABS sensor is new. Brake disc is new, so new reluctor ring in place. But the C1335 code persists. No other codes are present.

Can you guys suggest what I can try next?

Thanks in advance

Paul
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Hi

Have you cleaned the reluctor ring, if it has one or cleaned the wheel bearing face if it uses that for the signal ?

Have you seen this abs topic?
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Hi there

Thanks for replying.

I fitted new discs and pads whilst working on the ABS sensor.

The disc has an integrated bearing, and the reluctor ring. So bearing and ring are brand spanking new. As well as the sensor.

I’m at a bit of a loss now.

Thanks again

Paul
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It is worth looking at the live data from the wheel sensor. You can use the lexia clone tool for this if the odb2 won't do it

You can get a better look for intermittent signals, poor signals or a flat line, all when rotating the wheel
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I’ve got a Carista ODB2 to Bluetooth adapter, and I’ve tried several iPhone apps. So far I haven’t found an app that shows the real time wheel speed sensor data.

I’m not sure if I can justify £120 for lexia. If that’s my only option I might have to get a garage to scan it for me and give me the results.
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My next idea is to hook the multimeter up to the ABS sensor and see if I get ax voltage when I spin the wheel.

Also, I might swap the near side and offside sensors to see if the fault moves to the near side. That way I will know if it’s a sensor fault or loom/module.
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All of those are good ideas.
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Best laid plans and all that.

It looks like the wheel speed sensors are active sensors on this vehicle, so can’t test for an AC voltage from the sensor when spinning the wheel.

I tested both the known working sensor and the suspect sensor, but got nothing from both.

Attempting to swap left and right is proving difficult as the near side sensor is pretty well stuck in there with rust and I risk breaking it just trying to get it out.

This is becoming a real pig of a job. Should have been relatively simple.
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Problem resolved.

It turned out that when I was testing the loom for continuity, my multimeter probes which are very fine were still bigger than the poles in the abs sensor plug. So I had stretched the female socket ports.

Stripping down the socket as much as I could, and using some fine surgical forceps, I managed to close up the connections, which gave a good contact when plugging the abs plug back in.

Abs fault cleared and all good.
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PaulsPicasso wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:37 pm Problem resolved.

It turned out that when I was testing the loom for continuity, my multimeter probes which are very fine were still bigger than the poles in the abs sensor plug. So I had stretched the female socket ports.

Stripping down the socket as much as I could, and using some fine surgical forceps, I managed to close up the connections, which gave a good contact when plugging the abs plug back in.

Abs fault cleared and all good.

Great that you cleared the fault.

'Back Probing' is a way to get some small and sharpish probes into the back of the plug where the wire come in. This can avoid damaging the mating face with your meter probes.
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