Snowflake and Sport Warning Light on my C3 Auto

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My Name: EmilysDad

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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (60)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 27500
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Arfur Dent wrote:......
Hi Andy, 3 litres from drained and 6 litres if you empty the torque converter.
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Thanks

I should have perhaps bought her a proper DS 19/21/23 ..... a SM would have gone over her head :lol:
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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (60)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 27500
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Had the software update done on Thursday. I drove it there & ironically it stalled for me in the usual place ..... first time it's ever stalled for me.

So far (day 2 of update) I'm not optimistic, it wavered yesterday but didn't actually stall. Monday first thing when it's cold might be a better test. Though talking to the neighbour that's a Peugeot tech, said that they often have to do the gearbox solenoids after the software update anyway.

Time will tell.
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Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (60)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 27500
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Citroen Cutomer Care has just phoned me to discuss the message I sent them via their web site. The best offerf they had was £250 off the screen price of any of the car in their stock!!!! :o :o Talk about taking the P!! I told him that I found their misery offer insulting as I'm sure you could get £250 off the screen price anyway.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.1
Fuel Type: Petrol
Trim Level: Desire
Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
Engine name: TU3 (75 PS)
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Just been having a quick look through this topic, I can't see anywhere but did you replace the gearbox oil/fluid?
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all the evidence and pretend you never tried :lol:
My Name: EmilysDad

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Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:56 pm
Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (60)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 27500
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Missing Lincs wrote: ....., I can't see anywhere but did you replace the gearbox oil/fluid?
No. But as pointed out by neighbour (Peugeot tech) at 27500 miles, the car/ATF hasn't been anywhere yet. He also said, that of all the cars brought in for the updated gearbox software, they almost all come back in for new solenoids. :|
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Fuel Type: Petrol
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DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)
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True, but the car is 6 years old and what sort of journeys does it do regularly? Lots of short stop starts and no motorways?

I would suggest change the fluid (flush is possible), go for a good blast or two down the motorway, and then possibly even change the fluid again.
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My Name: EmilysDad

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Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:56 pm
Model: C3 2009-2013, New shape (A51)
Year: 2010 (60)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 27500
Trim Level: Exclusive
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Missing Lincs wrote:True, but the car is 6 years old and what sort of journeys does it do regularly? Lots of short stop starts and no motorways?

I would suggest change the fluid (flush is possible), go for a good blast or two down the motorway, and then possibly even change the fluid again.
Unfortunately as you imply, the car is used for short journeys .... EmilysMum's work is about a mile & a half away so she probably does about 3000 miles a year at best. We do try to take it for a run when we can eg used it to drive to Cheshire Oaks (Oh Goody!! :roll: ) yesterday & I'll take it to work every now & then (45 mile round trip).

It's still early days, but I'll probably do as you suggest & do an ATF change first before I think about solenoids ;)
My Name: nikesh_it

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Model: C3 2006-2009, Facelift model
Year: 2009 (09)
Engine Size: 1.6
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 40000
Trim Level: VTR+
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: LHD

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Dear All,

I Would like to share my experience which i.m currently facing.

I.m using my Friend car Citroen C3 ( Automatic Gear ) for last two years. Its 2009 Model and 60000 KM used.

Now i.m getting Error MSG "Gear Box Faulty " in my dash board.
On further analysis i found i.m getting this MSG only once in a day. After switching OFF & Switching ON the engine the MSG went & system is normal.
Also i found when i take the car in the morning within 1 KM i.m getting this MSG when i drive in 40-50 KM speed. But when i drive first 1-2 KM in less than 20-30 KM speed i.m getting this MSG.

Can you explain me why i.m getting this MSG everyday when i start the car , Its something like Systems is checking all the parts.

What the solution to close this issue.

Please advise.

Thanks & Regards,
Nikesh Jayakumar
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Diesel
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Gearbox: Manual 5 speed
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nikesh_it wrote:Now i.m getting Error MSG "Gear Box Faulty " in my dash board.
On further analysis i found i.m getting this MSG only once in a day. After switching OFF & Switching ON the engine the MSG went & system is normal.
Also i found when i take the car in the morning within 1 KM i.m getting this MSG when i drive in 40-50 KM speed. But when i drive first 1-2 KM in less than 20-30 KM speed i.m getting this MSG.

Can you explain me why i.m getting this MSG everyday when i start the car , Its something like Systems is checking all the parts.
Hi nikesh_it, you need to connect the car to a Lexia System, like this one or this one. Doing this is the only way to find the error code that gives your message 'Gear Box Faulty'.

The code or codes will tell you what is 'faulty' and will give you an idea on where to look in the gearbox to fix it.
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My Name: alggomas

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I had/have the same problem.
Diagnostic showed automatic gearbox oil valve,pump fault. This was replaced about 5 years ago for £450. This included new oil and ,£50 diagnosic fee.
The problem has returned but I am running as is, as the car now only worth £300.you do not have to switch off as the car will complete journey ok.
I would go to a specialist auto garage. If they say it could be this or that get your money back as they should know.
For what it's worth someone suggested removing the square nut on the gearbox under the air filter and pour in some auto oil. But check. My car is a C3 2002
1.4 auto.
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