sensodrive shuddering in 1st gear when moving off

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Hi all

I just brought a Citroen C3 in December last year.
I did not notice it then but almost every time I stop at the traffic lights or junctions such as roundabouts I get a shudder in 1st gear when moving off. It is like I am moving in higher gear but actually am in 1st. There is nothing lower apart from neutral but I can't drive in neutral.
All the other gears are fine just the first gear.

I love these gearboxes and that is why I want it fixed.

I understand it is a gearbox problem. I have had the car check for any faults (ODB2) but nothing no faults all is clear.

Has anyone here had a similar problem?

I am trying to find a sensodrive savvy but as I am located in Slough in Berkshire they seem to be hard to find.

Any hints or advice welcome.

Moh
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Hi Moh
Moh wrote:I have had the car check for any faults (ODB2) but nothing no faults all is clear.
If its a gearbox fault, it probably won't show up on OBD2, you may be better off getting it checked with a citroen dealer, citroen specialist or use a Lexia tool (topic here) to get the codes out of the gearbox ecu.

You may be better off at citroen as they can advise if the automatic gearbox software is up to date and if not, then update it.

The judder is probably down to the clutch plate or the actuator,

how many miles has the car done on the existing clutch?
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You may be better off at citroen as they can advise if the automatic gearbox software is up to date and if not, then update it.

The judder is probably down to the clutch plate or the actuator,

how many miles has the car done on the existing clutch?


The car has done 74,000 miles so far.

How much will it cost me to update the gear box software?
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The car has done 74,000 miles so far.
You may be in line for a new clutch at that mileage :(

How much will it cost me to update the gear box software?
I think you will be looking at the price of 1 hours diagnostic work. It will probably take less than 1 hour to complete, but 1 hour seems to be the minimum time main dealers charge.
I don't know the rate at which citroen charge per hour and hopefully will never find out :)
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I think I found the solution.

A few days a go my car battery went flat, I jump started my car took it home.
When taking the battery out I found out that the battery was smaller than it should be because there was plenty of room left on the battery compartment near the engine.

Anyway I took the battery out and recharged it. After putting the battery back The car ran smoother with no juddering at all, a few days later the juddering came back but lesser than before.

Therefore I assume it is the battery (type 063) causing the problem. The battery is too small and not providing enough power.

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The battery starts the engine, its the fuel that keeps it running. I don't think the size of the battery affects juddering or the gearbox.

Maybe a loose connection will cause problems, but jump starting the C3 can be fatal.


Enter your registration number in the tool here: Citroen C3 Battery Selector to find the right battery for your model and year (with free delivery available too).
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