Lexia tool near me pls?

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Hi all, the wife's 52 plate C3 1.4 petrol auto has similar faults posted by Frankiiei2003. Is there any1 near me who has a lexia tool to read the my cars faults please, dealers are quite expensive. I will of course be willing to pay, but not ridiculous dealer prices. I'm in LL319 area, thanks,Suben.
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Hi Subenp
Subenp wrote:Hi all, the wife's 52 plate C3 1.4 petrol auto has similar faults posted by Frankiiei2003
frankiiei2013 wrote:the only problem is its in 'limp mode' we have bought a new set of injectors in the hope that works (the old ones were all corroded)
We have yet to recieve and replave the injectors but IF they do work, were worried as the weather the car being in 'limp mode' had blown the ECU.
Has anyone else had a similar problem/experience?
Thank you in advance.
Frances.
citroen-c3-questions/running-in-limp-mode-t653.html

The problems frankiiei2013 had are engine related, which for a 2002 petrol C3 are covered by OBD2. You could use a cheap ebay OBD2 reader if Lexia is out of reach.



Lexia clones are available and function just as well as the dealer version, a worth while investment if you do your own repairs or at least, your own investigation and diagnosis. Cheaper than a trip to the dealer? Lexia for Citroen


This topic has information about a fault where injectors are corroded by a leak of water:
petrol-c3/leaking-washer-jets-causes-da ... -t584.html


This topic has some information about Lexia:
citroen-c3-tips/lexia-and-obd-diagnosti ... -t655.html
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 54000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Hi C3car, thanks for the prompt reply. I should have mentioned that it was an old post by Frankiiei, this one to be more precise:
frankiiei2013 wrote: Dropping back intom3rd at 45mph
Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:44 am
Hi,
Just wanted some advicemon my Citroen c3 1.4 2003 automatic.
It keeps dropping back into 3rd gear as soon as you get to 45mph. Also the 'S' and 'snowflake' symbol appear.
Has anyone had a similar problem and know how to fix this?
Thank you.
Frankie.
Our car seems to do this mostly when it's is driven the first time of the day, and it seems to not so bad afterwards throughout the day. Any advice would be much appreciated. I'll get one of those readers on post the error codes and hopefully I can pinpoint where the fault is likely to be.
Many thanks, Suben.
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Oh, I see. Sorry.
Subenp wrote:Our car seems to do this mostly when it's is driven the first time of the day, and it seems to not so bad afterwards throughout the day.
How about oil? Change the gear box oil and see how you go. The oil is cold at the first start of the day, but warms up after the first drive.

You need special oil for the auto boxes, Esso ATF 4HP20-AL4 or esso LT 71141.

Looking at the colour of the old oil can give an indication on the level of wear.


I'll get one of those readers on post the error codes and hopefully I can pinpoint where the fault is likely to be.
I suggested the OBD2 reader because I thought it was an engine problem, but you say its a gear box problem and the OBD readers won't do gear box. You are correct in your request - you need lexia for gear box.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
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Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
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Do you by any chance know the amount of gearbox oil I need to get,is it 4,5l gearbox capacity,so 5l of atf? I've already ordered one of those OBD readers from Ebay, so I guess I'll just have to keep it if I need to use it in the future, hopefully I won't though.
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Subenp wrote:Do you by any chance know the amount of gearbox oil I need to get,is it 4,5l gearbox capacity,so 5l of atf?
Haynes says 4.5L from a drain, but if its a strip down and do the torque converter you will need 6L. Not any old ATF, use the proper stuff linked to above.
Subenp wrote: I've already ordered one of those OBD readers from Ebay, so I guess I'll just have to keep it if I need to use it in the future, hopefully I won't though.
Its worth doing (OBD reads) as part of your own maintenance schedule (if you do oil, filters etc). The codes can show up well before problems are apparent. Yearly checks for codes and then any remedial action can help keep up reliability.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
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Mileage: 54000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Thanks for all the helpful info, I'll get back in touch and let you know if it solved the problem, thanks Suben.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (52)
Engine Size: 1.4 i
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Mileage: 54000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Hi there, I've got one of those Diagbox 7 packages from the well know auction site and am in the process of installing it, albeit, not a quick process and I'll be seeking a mate how knows more about installing the software than I do to get it done.
First question, in the event of me actually getting it working, do you know if Diagbox 7 backwards compliant, and will read my 2003 C3 1.4 auto gearbox ecu?
Secondly,I've had a mate change my gearbox oil, he used my reg and got the ATF through a garage he used to work for, and it's not the Mobil brand, but Valvoline Max Life,it's red fluid, is this suitable? I'll try and attach a pic of it.
Thirdly, the colour of the old oil was anything but red, it was dark browny in colour, is this normal?
Fourthly, I remember reading somewhere in the forums that is should have taken about 4.5l of oil, is this correct, as once the drain plug was removed, it took less than 2l when refilled with new oil and checked via level plug? Ps,only about the same amount of old oil came out when drained too.
Many thanks in advance,
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Subenp wrote:Secondly,I've had a mate change my gearbox oil, he used my reg and got the ATF through a garage he used to work for, and it's not the Mobil brand, but Valvoline Max Life,it's red fluid, is this suitable? I'll try and attach a pic of it.
Subenp wrote:Atf
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Looks like the wrong stuff. Does it say specifically for the AL4 ? You can check on the valvoline website to see if its suitable if it doesn't say on the packaging. The transmission oil for the AL4 is in a link I posted above, only that linked to should be used.
Subenp wrote:First question, in the event of me actually getting it working, do you know if Diagbox 7 backwards compliant, and will read my 2003 C3 1.4 auto gearbox ecu?
The diagbox runs lexia and can read cars pre-2002, so it will read yours. Its fully backwardly compatible .

Subenp wrote:Thirdly, the colour of the old oil was anything but red, it was dark browny in colour, is this normal?
The oil should never be red, that is the wrong oil. It should be golden yellow when new. Its brown as the gearbox wears and bits of friction material end up mixed with it.

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New Vs Old Transmission oil for the Citroen C3
Subenp wrote:Fourthly, I remember reading somewhere in the forums that is should have taken about 4.5l of oil, is this correct, as once the drain plug was removed, it took less than 2l when refilled with new oil and checked via level plug? Ps,only about the same amount of old oil came out when drained too.
Haynes says 4.5L if you don't drain the torque converter. Maybe it wasn't warmed up a bit first, and not fully drained?
https://citroenc3owners.com/c3-automatic-gearbox/no-speed-signal-to-ecu-t585-10.html wrote:The oil checking is a right pain, no dipstick, its more of a 'if lots of oil pours out, then there is enough in there', but some a re just sealed 'for life'......

c3-automatic-gearbox/another-c3-auto-ge ... r-t55.html has some instructions on level checking, but basically, add half a litre of oil, run the gearbox, then remove the level check plug, if no oil, or only drips of oil, add another half a litre and repeat. If oil eventually runs out of the level point, you have reached 'over full' - allow the excess to drain (up to 500mls). Now the level is correct :)
c3-automatic-gearbox/no-speed-signal-to ... 85-10.html
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