* and sport warning light- but no error code?

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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 83000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Hi guys,
This afternoon I took the car out and half a mile in the D gear was replaced by the * and sport warning on the dashboard. I managed to limp the car into a car park and called the breakdown company as the car was going no where and i'm aware it's the warning that the gearbox has a fault.

The breakdown guy shows up, turns the car on and off and the warning disappears. He gets a diagnostic out, plugs it in and says that no errors were found or have been recorded and therefore he won't take the car to a garage or even back home as there is nothing wrong with it. He said he thought it could have been a coil pack but it revs fine in idle?!

Begrudgingly as the warning has gone and the car would go into drive, I drove the car home. It was jumpy to drive on the way back and the rpm seemed to be going high then dropping down every time I accelerated, but it will drive.

Is there a specific cause for an intermittent warning and is it common no error codes are found? The gear change is jumpy and rpm high so I do feel there's a problem rather than it being a dodgey electrical warning. My thinking is the transmission fluid might be low? If so is it an expensive job at the garage? I've zero skills to do it myself.

Thanks in advance,
Jess.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 83000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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I forgot to mention I have a 04 auto, 1.4l sx petrol with about 82000 miles on the clock. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Hi Jess, welcome to the forum :)
puzzlepiecelife wrote:Hi guys,
This afternoon I took the car out and half a mile in the D gear was replaced by the * and sport warning on the dashboard. I managed to limp the car into a car park and called the breakdown company as the car was going no where and i'm aware it's the warning that the gearbox has a fault.
Yes, there is a fault recorded, use the right equipment to read the faults. If there is still no fault recorded the there could be some power supply fault, but I would still double check for faults.

The only tool that can reliably read old and new citroen codes is the Lexia Diabox clone from eBay.
puzzlepiecelife wrote:Begrudgingly as the warning has gone and the car would go into drive, I drove the car home. It was jumpy to drive on the way back and the rpm seemed to be going high then dropping down every time I accelerated, but it will drive.
I would expect a code or two to be stored for this too
puzzlepiecelife wrote:Is there a specific cause for an intermittent warning and is it common no error codes are found?
No, its uncommon for there to be a autogearbox fault and no codes.
puzzlepiecelife wrote:My thinking is the transmission fluid might be low? If so is it an expensive job at the garage? I've zero skills to do it myself.
Some are easier to refill than others as later ones are 'sealed for life' making it a bit more trick to refill. Its not described as 'easy' to do. Low transmission fluid should bring up some pressure fault and if the level was low enough to bring up the sport and snow, why has the fault cleared?

There are some pictures of the refill and level checking points for the AL4 automatic gearbox in this topic:
https://citroenc3owners.com/c3-automatic ... n-t56.html

Special oil for the auto gearbox Esso ATF 4HP20-AL4 or Esso/Mobil LT 71141 only and not to be used in sensodrives.


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My Name: puzzlepiecelife

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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2004 (04)
Engine Size: 1.4 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 83000
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: Automatic PRND
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Hiya, me again!
I took the car to a garage that focused on fixing just citreon's after the main dealer wanted £200 just to change the transmission fluid without a fault code reading!!!!!'

Anyway, they ran some tests and found several issues with the car on top of the gearbox. The note says 'transmission fault, 6 fault in pressure regulation intermittent'. Googling the issue seems to say it could be a solenoid valve or transmission fluid. They recommended a local-Ish automatic gearbox whizz to have a look at it further.

They checked the whole car over and also found the 'engine cooling system was pressuring up' (no idea what that means) and the front brake discs and pipes are corroded. Wonderful! Only had the car a month. Things are not going well!

It cost £30 for a car health check and diagnostic. As someone who wouldn't know where to start with a lexia myself it wasn't too expensive I guess!

Let me know if you work out what's causing yours!

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puzzlepiecelife wrote:The note says 'transmission fault, 6 fault in pressure regulation intermittent'. Googling the issue seems to say it could be a solenoid valve or transmission fluid. They recommended a local-Ish automatic gearbox whizz to have a look at it further.
There is a topic here that shows how to repair the fault 6 pressure solenoid fault on a C3 thanks to JAGPURR :)
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