actuator clutch location ?

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hello all , yes I need your help in a few things . ive just brought a citroen c3 2002 sx with a sensodrive clutch actuator fault engine light is on , when I brought the car the guy said it was fault diagnosed with clutch actuator fault and needs to be put into snow mode to drive it that I have done also when I wipe the code from the ecu it drives ok but when the engine light is on well back to square one again . I just need some help to locate the clutch actuator and is it a big job to replace ? also the gearbox dose it take oil sorry im new to cars like this never had a sensodrive car so don't know much , if I takes oil can you tell me where to top up the box , your help will be very helpful to me . regards leon
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Hi leon,
leonardo41 wrote: I just need some help to locate the clutch actulator
Its on the gearbox bell housing.

Looks like this:
clutch actuator citroen c3
clutch actuator citroen c3
You can find them on ebay, have a look at this link.

If you change the actuator, its could be worth changing the clutch plate too. This way the ECU can be reset as there is no wear on the clutch plate or actuator. Try this link to euro car parts to compare prices for clutch plates.

If you need to access the gearbox ECU, use lexia (here).
leonardo41 wrote:also the gearbox dose it take oil sorry im new to cars like this never had a sensodrive car so don't know much , if I takes oil can you tell me where to top up the box
There is oil in the gearbox, they are usually sealed for life. If you want to renew the oil, drain it all out and refill with the exact amount for your gearbox. I don't think you need to do this until you have the clutch repaired, and you may not need to do it at all.
leonardo41 wrote: I brought the car the guy said it was fault diagnosed with clutch actuator fault
Its a common fault and quite expensive to fix. It can often make the early cars uneconomical to repair if you factor in the labour and parts costs.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (02)
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Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: SensoDrive
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hi . im still having problems finding the clutch actulator on my citroen c3 sx 2002 . found a little black box with a gear linkage on top of the gear box . have taken off the gear box ecu unit and did start to take the black covering behind the ecu until it started leaking oil and quickly screwed up it back in . im at a loss and have looked all round the gear box and just cant find it . and with that cant even find the gear box top up plug . are these items hiding ?? your help would be great as I am totally lost . pictures would be good if you have any many thanks
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leonardo41 wrote:im still having problems finding the clutch actulator on my citroen c3 sx 2002 .
Have a look at this topic

https://citroenc3owners.com/c3-automatic ... t1335.html

for pictures locating the clutch actuator.
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I'm now in two minds that this car is not senso drive its just a normal 1.4 sx 2002 as cant find them after looking for actulators . Its there such a thing just a normal auto box ?
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leonardo41 wrote:I'm now in two minds that this car is not senso drive its just a normal 1.4 sx 2002 as cant find them after looking for actulators . Its there such a thing just a normal auto box ?
Sensodrive has flappy paddles and/or a standard looking manual gear shifter stick, but without the numbers (1,2,3,4,5). Its a manual gearbox adapted to semi-automatic with clutch and gear actuators and ECU.
Sensodrive has a clutch, but no clutch pedal. No 'Park' or 'Drive'. You can drive the car in semi or auto mode.

The sensodrive gearstick looks like this:

sensodrive gear selector for manual mode
sensodrive gear selector for manual mode
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and the flappy paddles, part of the com2000, off the car:
flappy paddles - sensodrive citroen C3 gear box on com2000
flappy paddles - sensodrive citroen C3 gear box on com2000



The other is the classic automatic gearbox, full auto, designed to be auto from the start, no clutch. Its got the familiar PRND marking and the selector looks like:

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Citroen C3 clutch actuator on senso drive auto box
Citroen C3 clutch actuator on senso drive auto box
Does this one help?, it shows the clutch actuator of the sensodrive semi automatic box and its location on the bell-housing and the bracket. You will need to remove the air filter and its plastic pipes to get to the bell housing/gear box and it may give better access if you remove the fuel filter.
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Model: C3 2002-2005, Original shape model
Year: 2002 (02)
Engine Size: 1.6 (16v)
Fuel Type: Petrol
Mileage: 11100
Trim Level: Touch
Gearbox: SensoDrive
DPF: No
LHD or RHD: RHD (UK)

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Thankyou everyone for your info much needed , its the classic auto box
I have so I'm guessing no clutch , its strange coz its slipping in normal mode
But when you put it into snow mode its ok , I have topped up box as it looked
Very low just hope I have not filled it up to much .
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leonardo41 wrote:Thankyou everyone for your info much needed , its the classic auto box
I have so I'm guessing no clutch , its strange coz its slipping in normal mode
But when you put it into snow mode its ok , I have topped up box as it looked
Very low just hope I have not filled it up to much .
I think snow mode locks out first gear so you have a problem with first gear if it works ok in the other gears.

Gearbox oil for the fully automatic AL4 gearbox is a specific Esso ATF 4HP20-AL4 or Esso/Mobil LT 71141 only.

Top up and level checking is difficult yet critical for proper operation of the gearbox.

https://citroenc3owners.com/c3-automatic ... n-t56.html has some pictures for top up and level checking.

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AL4 gearbox troubles
https://citroenc3owners.com/c3-automatic ... 81-10.html

AL4 gearbox valve repair topic
https://citroenc3owners.com/tips-for-a-c ... t1254.html
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